[perthbashi] Covid 19 Community Support Initiative by IPDC

On 19 Apr 2020, at 11:39 am, Sabbir Rahman rahman..sabbir@gmail.com [perthbashi] <perthbashi@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

As an ex Perth resident ( but like Nasim vai very attached to it) its really sad to see all this argument.

First of all thanks to IPDC for taking such a great step to help other. Its a great initiative.

I really wish Nasim vai isnt attacked personally regarding this matter as he has not spoken about any single person or named names, his concerns were regarding an organization.

I personally understand Nasim vais concern as me and my family have been very lucky to be associated with him socially and a lot of his friends. Nasim vai and Mimi vabi has always welcomed us and others with welcome arms and made us feel at home and Perth as a city would not mean anything to us if not for people like Nasim vai and others. So, those of us who know Nasim vai, know very well why our community means so much to him and vabi.

If Nasim Vai's comment regarding IPDC is wrong, please those who are associated with IPDC, please stand up for your group and deny Nasim Vais comments. 

If you are not part of Jamat e Islami, just say you are not, instead of accusing him personally.

If you are a part of Jamat e Islami, just say you are and then people can decide whether they want to donate or not.

Or third option could be like Israels answer to Nuclear Weapons….they neither accept nor deny they have any. such weapons, and people can decide whether to donate or not.

If Nasim Vai or anyone said something about me which was not true, I think I will definitely stand up for myself and deny it and people can decide who they want to believe, thats not my concern but I will not let it pass

I believe we should not be afraid of the truth and express it to the best of our ability.

Also, to attack Nasim Vai personally and saying he has no right to speak about his concerns in Perth is as illogical as saying no Muslims should speak about Palestine as they are not Palestinian.

I am not going to educate anyone from IPDC about what Islam says about slandering another human being as I am sure they are much more educated then me.

I didn't see Nasim Vai  attack anyone peersonally (or may have missed it) but if IPDC is requesting for donation then the public has right to know exactly how they are associated with other groups or maybe they are not.

Again, this is not to offend anyone, I have nothing against IPDC or any other group for that matter. I am just hoping that IPDC will answer if they are associated with Jamat e Islami or not, that's all and not slander someone for his or her concerns.

Thanks

Sabbir

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:33 PM Prabir Sarker p.sarker@curtin.edu.au [perthbashi] <perthbashi@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I know that Nasim bhai and his family lived here in Perth for almost 20 years. Though they are away for some time now, they visit Perth frequently because of their love and attachment to this community. They have their house in Perth and would love to come back and live here again with this wonderful community. Though away from Perth temporarily, I know their heart is in Perth more than in any other place.

 

Prabir Sarker

Willetton

 

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Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2020 7:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [perthbashi] Covid 19 Community Support Initiative by IPDC

 

  

Nasim and his family has been and will always be part of our community.

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On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 09:34, Jahanara Islam jahanara43islam@gmail.com [perthbashi] <perthbashi@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Mr Ahmed,

 

May ask you who gave you the right to decide who should or should not be the part of the community in Perth. Looks like you are the vocal and representing yourself for IPDC only. Your own version of defining the criteria is not the standard determining who should be still part of the community or not.. This is not your para or moholla from where you came from. This is very offensive statement for which you should beg apology. You have no idea still our Perth community have close contact with us and seek advice from Nasim on various occasion and we are away doesn't mean we are disconnected. 

 

Thanks everyone who have called since yesterday and showing their support and you are regarded as the main st critical and difficult person.

 

Thanks,

 

Mimi

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On 19 Apr 2020, at 9:19 am, Faruk Ahmed faruk.perth@gmail.com [perthbashi] <perthbashi@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Dear Nasim Bhai,

Assalmu Alaikum.

Being part of a country is governed by it’s citizenship law – we are still Bangladeshi because the country allows dual citizenship. Being part of a local community is based on residing in a locality – “A community has been defined as a group of interacting people living in a common location”. 

It’s great to keep contacts with past community because of emotional attachment, it’s not appropriate to interfere their affair though. That’s all I wanted to say bhai.

You are always welcome to return to this great place – we surely will have good time again.

All the best to you and your family.

Faruk, Southern River 

 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:51 PM 'Md. Nasim Iqbal' mniqbal_au@yahoo.com.au [perthbashi] <perthbashi@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Dear All

I had no intention to send another email until I see a formal response from IPDC. But things are getting bit ugly and going in to different directions……. 

Even our Shahin Bhai recommended – “if we leave WA, we are not part of it anyway and …“. So we all left Bangladesh, can we say we are not part of Bangladesh anyone? What an absurd hypothesis. 

My very simple expectation was – IPDC would say ‘we have no link with any Bangladeshi political party’. End of conversation.

However, the discussion turns to community divide, harmony and so on. I am not sure whether anyone even think – have we ever seen any IPDC member any a dinner party or in a big Bangladeshi community event? Until 2015 I did not meet any IPDC member In any such event. Even I did not hear the Head of IPDC WA chapter at that time said Assalamualaikum to greet any Bangladeshi community members in public places. These people have been working in isolation for years and no one is responsible for that. It’s been their choice.

In my view, virtual presence on the Perthbashi discussion group will not make them part of the bigger family. 

Finally, I like to say again, please do not take my words personally.

Keep well and stay safe.

Regards 

Nasim 

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> On 18 Apr 2020, at 8:53 pm, Faruk Ahmed faruk.perth@gmail.com [perthbashi] <perthbashi@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> If we leave WA, we are not part of it anymore.